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You're listening to the Staffa Corner Podcast a Staffatarian look at entertainment and life with your host, Greg Staffa.

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My guest this episode is Jett Juergensmeyer. He took his first steps on stage at the age of three, began acting at the age of four and by the age of five, his family had moved him to California, where he's been seen in all kinds of shows, from hey Arnold to the Jungle Movie, to American Sniper to CSI. He's also a talented singer. He has his first single, everything Will Be Alright, released in 2018, and he's released many more since then. Chet, thanks for joining us today.

Speaker 1: 0:47

Of course. Thank you for having me, Greg.

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So the age of three, I probably thought I was a dinosaur. My parents didn't take me seriously. I probably wanted to be. You know, all kinds of fantasy-type things in my head. What, at age three and four, did your parents see in you that knew that this was the way to go? I mean to up and move at the age of five for something for their child. You have to have a lot of faith in that.

Speaker 1: 1:15

You really do. I don't know really what it was. I think it was just faith. You know I'm a talkative person. I never really meet strangers. I can make friends with everybody and I've always kind of been that way since I was really young and we had some friends who were very close with us, the Mandrell family, and it was their mother, mary Mandrell. She kind of told my parents you know, why don't you try acting with him and see what happens? And they said, okay, so I started doing some commercials and I think I did a movie or two here in Nashville and not long after that, when I was five, we kind of just said let's go out to California. My agent, who I have here, had a connect out there, so it just made sense to go try it. And ever since we first went out there I was just working pretty consistently.

Speaker 2: 2:06

Parents had to have a lot of faith in you to do that. What was their roles? Did they have jobs that they moved out there to that were able to keep doing what they usually do, or what were their roles in all?

Speaker 1: 2:19

this. So I was very fortunate that my parents had worked a lot and very hard, very young. So when I started pursuing acting and it made sense to go out to California, they were working for themselves so they could work from wherever. So it just happened to work out that way and I'm very blessed that it did. And I don't think I'd be where I am today if they hadn't worked so hard, so young now I have.

Speaker 2: 2:49

I mean, I'm, I'm 50, so I have many years ahead of you. I have very vague memories, just little snippets of memories, from when, around when I was around the age of five, looking back, how much of this? Were you aware of what's going on? How much was this real versus fantasy? I mean here, as a five-year-old I was always, you know, pretending I was a knight, or I was pretending I was a dragon, or I was pretending I was something In your acting and roles. Did you know this was a job? How did you approach things at that young of age?

Speaker 1: 3:24

You know I was doing it because it was fun, and so I didn't realize that I was getting paid and doing it for work until I was about 10, honestly, my parents were just very, very protective and they did a very good job of keeping me grounded, which, to this day, is who I am, and so it was definitely kind of my upbringing that kept a good head on my shoulders and I look back now and realize it was work. But all of them were really cool memories and there weren't many five-, six and seven-year-olds that could talk about being on a movie set or in the studio doing voiceover work for somebody like Nickelodeon.

Speaker 2: 4:07

There's the classic movie Toy Story, where Woody was the popular toy and then Buzz came in and took over. In life, we often get bored by things One minute we're into soccer and then the next minute we're into baseball. At any point do you feel comfortable enough where? If you told your parents, I want to go back home and, you know, be a kid again, was that an option? Or did you feel, not unnecessary pressure, but a little bit of pressure to continue doing this? Did you have, did you feel you had a voice? I?

Speaker 1: 4:39

definitely had that option. Now, there's always going to be that pressure. You know you don't want to let not necessarily like my parents, but anybody down, and so people are expecting you to do something. You don't want to let them down, but I always had the option to be able to say I don't want to do this anymore, into doing anything, which is awesome. Again, good parenting, which has just been super, super beneficial for who I am today that we only get one life. So if you don't enjoy doing it, why? Why waste years and years doing it? You know, do something that makes you happy, that you can make a difference in people's lives by doing, and so that's kind of what I found up to this point in my life.

Speaker 2: 5:24

I always wondered when it comes to child actors, like, if I leave a job, you know there's there's some, you know sadness and you know I'm moving on to something else. With acting, you have a role, someone might play, your parent or your best friend, and you're spending weeks with them. Then all of a sudden it's over. Is it difficult as a child actor to kind of realize that this is only temporary? How do you handle those things where you're so close to someone, where someone's playing a parent or playing a role model, and then having it end? How do you, how did someone cope with something like that?

Speaker 1: 6:03

You know, I think that that never goes away. There's definitely a sadness of spending months and months, sometimes even years, with people if you're on a show and then they go to another show and you go work on something else and you guys really don't see each other other than maybe every couple months, maybe at an event or a premiere. Sometimes you go years on end without seeing some of your closest friends. So that's definitely hard to go through as a kid, but I even think as an adult that's hard to do.

Speaker 1: 6:39

You know, I watched plenty of adult actors when I was a kid on set, have just as hard a time of. If you're, if you're a female actress and you're, you're playing my mom, you know, all of a sudden you're just not anymore and you don't see me anymore, and you watched me grow up because we were together for three years on the show. That's difficult to go through, and so I think that that's how it is. Though, for anything, a lot of, a lot of people have mixed emotions when they move on from a position or move on from a company. I don't think that it's any different.

Speaker 2: 7:12

We all need breaks. I mean, we all need vacations, we all need to kind of step away from the dull drums of life as a child. How are you able to remain a child and have child experiences and not just be a professional? Because acting is hard. Whether you're five, whether you're 40, there's a lot that goes into being a child actor. How did you or your parents make ways to find time to be a child?

Speaker 1: 7:41

still, you know, one thing that I think is helpful to this day is that I'm the only one in my family that is an actor or really a musician my mom's a musician, but I'm the only one that does it for a job, and so, I think, being able to go home and see my family I'm an only child, so I'm really close with my cousins and their kids so being able to go home and be around my grandparents and my family, my so being able to go home and be around my grandparents and my family, my girlfriend, who has nothing to do with the entertainment business, being with people that are quote I guess normal, is really, really helpful, and that's how it's always been in my life.

Speaker 1: 8:16

My family, my friends, my close friends, have always just known me as Jet, not Jet Juergensmeyer, that's on this show or this movie or something like that and so they've always helped me kind of stay, stay normal and not not feel like I'm anything special, which I'm not, it's just, it's a, it's a job, so it's it. I think you know, putting myself or anybody that does what I do on a pedestal, it's kind of unnecessary. So you've got to have people that keep you grounded in your life.

Speaker 2: 8:46

Is there anything in particular? I don't want to say the word regret, but is there anything that, looking back, you kind of wish oh, I wish I could have attended prom. Maybe you did or didn't. I wish I would have gone camping, I wish I would have visited this or that. Is there anything kind of lingering that, like I said, I don't want to say regret, but a missed opportunity that you would have enjoyed experiencing as a kid, not being an actor?

Speaker 1: 9:12

I believe that everything happens for a reason. However, people always want what they can't have or what they didn't have. There's always that what if? In anything in life. So there's certain parts of me that wonder what it would have been like for me if I had gone to school and not been homeschooled before going to college, or had never gone to California and just stayed in Tennessee and Missouri, and so there's always going to be that question. But at the same time, I know that everything happens for a reason and God has a plan for me, and I'm not going to know what that plan is right now or for the next 30 years. It's not going to be until I'm up there with him and I can look back and realize what my life journey looked like and what it was. Whatever. What everything happened happened for a reason, and so I think you just have to have that mentality with everything Well said.

Speaker 2: 10:05

Now, you're not only a talented actor, not only a talented voiceover actor too, you're also a talented singer. If life was a balancing beam, how much of what you do is acting? How much is singing? The musician part, what is kind of the balance of things? What do you view yourself as?

Speaker 1: 10:24

I tend to just say I'm an entertainer because it's a mixture of things. What do you view yourself as? I tend to just say? I'm an entertainer because it's a mixture of everything, whether that's being able to go to a dinner with people I've never met and just being able to talk and be friends with everybody at the table by the time we leave, and whatever that may be, or it's going on stage and entertaining people, being on a show like Last man Standing and entertaining the crowd.

Speaker 1: 10:46

There's always that entertainment aspect in everything in life. So I usually consider myself an entertainer. However, I think that life is kind of like a seesaw and so for this period it might just be there's a lot of music happening, so that's what's going to weigh that side down, and then if music lightens up a little bit and this movie comes along and I get the role and I'm filming that for six months, well that's what's going to be consuming me for that time, and I think that's just how everything is. That's kind of how I've managed to balance. Everything is by letting it come when God plans for it to come and taking it one day at a time.

Speaker 2: 11:28

Now, your family and parents especially, have been instrumental in your success, your well, your upbringing, how you raise yourself, how you treat others. Now you're entering, kind of that, that age of you're 20, now you're about to be 21. Changes in the roles that you're seeing, changes in the the um, just things that are asked of you. How are you preparing for that, and how are your parents, because, I mean, they've been with you with this ride since you know, age three, age four, they made the move at age five, but now you're almost ready to kind of spread your own wings. Is that something that you're actively thinking about? Is that something that you know? Is there a little nervousness to that? How are you approaching this transition, as the roles now become a little bit more adult and focused on a younger man Jet versus the kid jet?

Speaker 1: 12:25

there's definitely that aspect of nervousness and and having to adapt to that change because that's just how it rolls, that's just how it goes. But at the same time I've been around it so long that my parents know they raised me right I know that I will always have a good head, good head on my shoulders, and that I will always think through things and make sure that I'm making the right decision for my life, reaching out and songs that I can sing and that are appropriate for me to sing. That didn't make sense for me to write or perform when I started putting out music. There's always going to be that stuff that's changing.

Speaker 1: 13:16

But I also, when I'm as a songwriter, I tend to write for me. When I'm writing for me, I tend to write about things that I've been through or that I'm currently going through, and that's kind of how I stay truest to myself. If I try to write about something I've never experienced or never been through, then it just kind of doesn't turn out as well as what I've found, and audiences and listeners to music seem to be able to smell bullcrap from a mile away. So if I'm trying to write a song and put this song out there, that I clearly have no idea what it's like to go through that or experience that or do that thing. That's in the song. Then people are going to be able to tell that, and so I've found that I've had the best success by just staying true to myself.

Speaker 2: 14:03

You have a very let's just say young looking face still Is the roles and type of roles you're being offered? Is that something that you're talking to your management about? That here's the kind of roles I'm looking for. Are you staying open to playing the? Because a lot of times we see like 24-year-olds that still are playing the 18-year-olds or whatnot in movies and television. We're also seeing the 20-year-olds that are playing the older adults. Is that something that you're actively talking with your management about, or are you just still letting roles come to you and weighing them based on the scripts versus the age that you're asked to play?

Speaker 1: 14:42

I tend to prefer to leave it up to the script and the project and the role, because if I feel like I can properly portray that character, then it's worth going for. If the casting director thinks so, then it's awesome. Obviously, having been an actor for basically my entire life and having played the kid in so many things, played the kid in so many things, there's a level of excitement that comes with getting an audition for a 20 plus year old and that's super cool because, oh, that's something completely different. But also having that I guess, baby face is also super beneficial because I can be 25 playing. It's also super beneficial because I can be 25 playing a character for a Disney movie, for example.

Speaker 1: 15:31

That's in high school and that's just how it goes and that's typically how they end up casting a lot because you can be on set as long as they need you to. You don't have to follow any guidelines as far as how many hours minors can work on set, because there's a lot of regulations for that, and so they tend to hire, I guess, adults to play younger. So having that, that younger face, is really a benefit if you let it be and kind of let your, let your ego sit off to the side so there's not a rush for you to feel like you're growing up, like I'm 20 years old.

Speaker 2: 16:08

Dang it. Now I want to act like a 20 year old, not a kid anymore.

Speaker 1: 16:11

Yeah, I. I feel like people grow up fast enough as is, especially when you grow up in such a mature industry, so I don't think I'm in any rush to have to pretend to be something of that.

Speaker 2: 16:27

So now you've been acting for a long time. Despite your age. You're not a rookie. What has that been like going into things in the later years? How has the industry treated you? How have other actors treated you? Was there anyone in particular that was really a mentor to you?

Speaker 1: 16:44

I think that it's really been neat to see how, to see what it's like being the more, I guess, experienced person in a room on something like acting or performing or anything like that. You know, I'm in college now and I have some friends that want to be actors and actresses that are coming to me asking me for advice on how to start going on auditions, what they should do for this character, so on and so forth, and I think that that's really neat. It feels like the hard work and the years of doing that grind are kind of paying off, because now I can help people, if that makes sense, which is what I really like to do. I want to be as helpful to everybody around me as I can and if I have a connect that can help you in this industry or something, I'm 100% going to give you their email and number and say, yeah, drop my name, go, shoot them a message. I want to help you be better, and so that's been really cool to see, now that I'm an adult and having been in the industry for so long. And it was also an interesting experience being a teenager, having been an actor for over a decade and being on certain sets where there's certain people that know that you're a professional and treat you like a professional, and then certain sets where people treat you like a kid and I'll never forget the people that treated me like a professional when I was a kid. That was really really cool to experience and feel like I was part of the club that I worked really hard to be a part of. Like last man standing, tim Allen treated me great. Tim Allen treated me great.

Speaker 1: 18:24

Sean Hayes on Will and Grace. I was 12, 13, whenever I was on that show and you would have thought that I'd been around for 40 years with how he would talk to me and treated me with just so much respect. And I will forever have respect for him because of the way that he he carried himself and treated really a kid that had no business, has had no business being treated like an adult as a 13 year old but because he'd been around for so long, wanted to be treated like an adult and Sean did. He treated me like an industry professional and that meant the world to me and I I mean I could I could go down a list of a bunch of people that have treated me just like that and that I'll always help them if they ever call me not not that Sean Hayes needs my help, but if he ever did, I'd be there for him.

Speaker 1: 19:16

But you know, I also live by the philosophy of treat others how you want to be treated and be kind to people. You don't know who somebody will be in 20 years, and so I've got my list of people that have treated me super, super well, and then there's a couple people that I'll be like. I remember when I was older and had been around for a minute, you guys kind of treated me and called me the kid. I won't forget that.

Speaker 2: 19:39

That's one of the things I like about doing a podcast like this is it's always wonderful hearing about the people like Sean Hayes, that people that you see in TV and they look like nice people and they look friendly and pleasant and you hear that they actually are and that they treat other people with respect. It's nice to hear those things. So many times we hear about kids falling through the cracks and being kind of eaten up by Hollywood. Is that something that you've? Is that something that you are constantly aware of? Is that, is that element that you hear about always out? There is something that you're aware about that you deliberately avoided, or is it a little bit over-exaggerated to what we hear from the media?

Speaker 1: 20:26

Do you mean like, like the mean, like the lifestyles?

Speaker 2: 20:29

The lifestyle, the temptations, those kind of things. It always seems like Hollywood hypes it up. Is that something that you actively felt but avoided? Or is that something that was a little bit over-exaggerated? You didn't really feel it, but you just remained your true self.

Speaker 1: 20:44

You know, I think that there's definitely temptations and if you let yourself get in with the wrong crowd or do the wrong thing, that you can fall into that rabbit hole. There's obviously that's happened a thousand times to a bunch of successful people and they'll tell you about that, and it's obviously something that my parents were cautious of, I was cautious of. But also I do think that there's that level of blowing things out of child actor hooked on drugs or something like that, something so absurd that it's really like guys, I'm sure it's happened and I know it has happened, but I think that those stories are so few and far between but if you talk about them enough, it sounds like it's happening every day.

Speaker 2: 21:46

Plus, I mean, I've heard the analogy that no one ever talks about the plane that lands safely. We all talk about the plane that crashed and that's what everyone focuses on.

Speaker 1: 21:57

Any publicity is good publicity and if that's bad, you know and you made a headline for a reason you're not proud of, that's still publicity. That's how people treat that, and I'm like what about the people that were successful by never having to have that super hard fall and having to climb back up that big hill of reaching back to their pinnacle of their career because they had that big mishap? Like what about those people that never experienced that?

Speaker 2: 22:24

Now your parents. I mean you're about to turn 21. Are they planning on staying in California or are they looking at moving back home with family? What is their plans as you kind of enter the next stage of your career?

Speaker 1: 22:39

Well, we never permanently moved to California. We always had a place there and we always kept our place in Missouri my grandparents and here in Tennessee because I'm a Tennessee boy through and through. So we always traveled back and forth. We were never permanently in California. It'd be a month there, a month back. If I was working on something, we'd be there for the duration of that and then come back. So they they are here in Tennessee and they bounce between here and Missouri and when I'm not in school I typically bounce between Tennessee and Missouri to see my family, because family is the most important thing to me. So they definitely. You know I go to school 15 minutes away from my childhood home. They're not too worried about never seeing me, but they are letting me spread my wings, kind of be. I guess a man now is the right way to say it.

Speaker 2: 23:26

It has to be hard. I mean, when you've followed someone from age three give up a lot of stuff at age five to be able to reach that point. I mean that's a testament to your hard work, but also their, their parenting. I mean I think parents don't get enough credit for when they do things right, and it sounds like they definitely did something right a little bit about 100.

Speaker 1: 23:50

I mean, we just talked about that. We just talked about how you never hear about the good. The plane that lands smoothly, it's always the one that crashes. You know, it's the same with parenting. Parents that do good don't get a enough credit. It's always man. The parents were the one that caused that problem. What about the ones that did good at it?

Speaker 2: 24:08

now tell us a little bit about the national influence in your music, or is there?

Speaker 1: 24:14

any. Well, oh, there's so so much influence. I mean, I grew up listening to country music. Countries in my blood, that's my roots, you know it's what I everything from old country to, from Loretta Lennon, johnny Cash to new country. You know Zach Bryan, miranda Lambert, morgan Wallen, ernest those guys have definitely inspired a lot of what I've written, a lot of how I record my songs, what I like them to sound like. And then there's also that aspect of having lived in California. You know I'm exposed to completely different music than what's the norm here in Nashville and that, I think, has benefited me for the better, because that means that my music can pull from all these different inspirations and things that I grew up listening to to really create my own sound, if that makes sense.

Speaker 2: 25:07

Is there a style of music that you're more interested in? Is there a style of music that you're more interested in? Is it country that your heart is, or is it the exploration of music that you find interesting?

Speaker 1: 25:20

Country is definitely where my heart is. I think it always will be, but I think the worst thing anybody can ever say for their career is this is the way I've always done it. Your audience is continuing to grow up and experience life. They know that you're growing up and experiencing life. Why are you staying the same? Stay true to who you are and if you want to put out a rock album, go do that. I think Hardy was a great example of that. He's written how many just smash country hits and then his last album was just basically hard rock and I think that was a great example of staying true to what you enjoy. We're very fortunate to be able to write songs and play music for a living, so I might as well have a little bit of fun with it.

Speaker 2: 26:02

And how do you find that balance between the music, the voiceover, the acting? What kind of takes precedent Is there? I mean, are they like your kids that you can't judge which one's your favorite? Is there something that you prefer to do more than the other, that kind of trumps? If you get that offer, that that's, that's what you would do. Or is it just whatever comes along? If that project interests you, regardless of its voiceover or acting or music, you'll do it.

Speaker 1: 26:29

I think it's what you just said. You know, if it's something that interests me, that I feel like I can do to the best of my ability, then to me it's, it's worth doing. So I I kind of just let whatever come at me happen and then make the best out of it. And if that's a, if that's a movie, if that's a voiceover show, if that's working on another album, then that's what I'm, that's what I'm going to do. And I mean your perspectives change, your interests change. So if there's ever a time in my life where I feel like maybe I don't want to do acting anymore, then I'll throw all my acting eggs into my music basket, and if it's vice versa, then it is what it is and you just kind of roll with the punches.

Speaker 2: 27:09

Now, not only do you act, you do some charity work too. You're a big proponent of the Ryan Seacrest Foundation. Tell us a little bit about your charity work.

Speaker 1: 27:19

Absolutely so. That foundation, I think, is a great example of how entertainment can be used to make somebody's day significantly better. That foundation they take donated money and they build essentially radio stations inside children's hospitals around the country and they have everybody from Taylor Swift to me come in and play music for the kids and be interviewed by the kids, play games with the kids, answer silly questions like do you like mustard on your pizza? I don't know random stuff like that, whatever kids can come up with. And that's real time.

Speaker 1: 28:00

Being able to see whatever somebody's going through and I promise you it's a lot more difficult than whatever it was that you were complaining about when you walked into that station. Whatever it was that they were going through, you can wipe that out of their memory for that 30 minutes to an hour that you're there and make them feel like a normal kid and really help their families, because the families have it really hard to having to watch their son, daughter, brother, sister go through whatever it is that's got them in that hospital. So being able to help them have a break from having to be stressed about their family member and also just have a little bit of fun while you're in a very serious environment. It's really really special to witness and be a small part of.

Speaker 2: 28:46

Very nice. Now going next, that's your current release, correct? Yes, sir, Tell us a little bit about that.

Speaker 1: 28:54

Absolutely so. I wrote this one with Drew Rizzuto. A lot of people call him Andrew, but I'm close with Michael and Drew. We've written a bunch together. We've written a couple of my singles together and a lot of songs that haven't been released yet and hopefully will be soon least yet and hopefully will be soon.

Speaker 1: 29:15

But we we sat down to write and I I'm a big cory kent fan and he he's got a couple different songs that I was really inspired by, like this heart and so far and wild is her, and I showed, drew those songs and I was like, hey, I want to write something like this and I had kind of the melody for going next and and really kind of before we knew it, the song was on the paper and we were like, man, this is really cool, and so I wanted to record it as part of my acoustic project, which I did, and that's what's out right now, and then I can actually you're the first place I've been able to say this I just yesterday got the final mix back of the full production version of Going Next, which will be on the next album.

Speaker 2: 29:58

Now you've had many different roles, played many different characters. Again, maybe this is like asking about your favorite kid, but is there a role that you had, regardless of how big it was? Maybe it was just a small guest appearance. What has been one of, like, your favorite roles? Oh my gosh.

Speaker 1: 30:16

That's that never gets easier to pick. You'd think that it'd be easier as the years go by and the roles you know come and go I've had I mean, everyone is a different experience, a different story. I've learned something new and made different friends. From every single one of them, whether it was being on one episode of Will and Grace, working on Last man Standing, being a part of Adventures, in Babysitting for Disney, all of us are still super close to this day, which is honestly really rare to find on a project where you guys still regularly text one another and hang out when someone's in town and go out of your way to spend time with them, you know. So that's super rare. Every single project has just been so, so neat and special to experience at such a young age that it's it's honestly kind of impossible to just pick one one of the things that I like to ask each actor and you've been doing this for many years.

Speaker 2: 31:16

So much of who you are is summed up in your bio. I'm not the first person to introduce you by saying you took your first steps at the age of three, or you came on stage at the age of three, began acting at the age of four, moved to California at the age of five. I'm not the first person to introduce you that way. We often reduce actors and actresses to the roles that they play, the characters that they've done or the movies that they've been in. When you get up in the morning, you splash a little water on your face and look in the mirror. Who do you see?

Speaker 1: 31:52

lash a little water on your face and look in the mirror. Who do you see? Wow? That's a great question. I think exactly what you said before I answer. That is a great point. I am simply an actor and a musician for my job. I'm just an ordinary dude in every other way. So being blown out of proportion or put on a pedestal of any kind, I think is kind of silly, because I make mistakes, just like everybody else. I'm experiencing life just like everybody else. Who I see in the morning, though, is somebody that is in college, and I'm stressed about school. I'm a legal studies major at Belmont University here in Nashville.

Speaker 1: 32:35

I was one of the first five founding fathers of our fraternity and just really going about life as an ordinary guy. I'm typically the quiet one. Actually, in my friend group, believe it or not, even though I'm sitting here talking to you for 40 minutes of just rambling, I'm the quiet one. I'm the one that is extremely protective of all of my friends and family. If I care about you, I'll go to jail for you tonight. So I have that personality. I'm always the one that I tell my friends that are going out on the weekends. You know my phone's the one that you should call. If you get into any trouble, I'll come and get you that sort of thing. That's kind of who I am out of the. I guess spotlight is the right word.

Speaker 2: 33:43

Finally, I'll put a link to Going Next, where it's available. Is there anything else that you can talk about, because I know a lot of times you can't Anything else coming up that you can talk about.

Speaker 1: 33:50

Oh yeah, Well, we've got some shows this year with the band around the country, so those are all on my website, jetjorgensmeyercom. And then, like I mentioned earlier, the new mix of Going Next with the full band. That and a couple other songs are getting finalized and we're working on the next album, which hopefully will be out within this year and any appearances on any television shows or films coming up. Not at the moment. It's kind of just been like that seesaw I talked about earlier. It's been really heavy on music lately.

Speaker 2: 34:27

Well, jet, it's been a pleasure talking to you. Thanks so much. Thank your parents. I think your parents don't get enough credit for the roles that they've done, and it sounds like yours have made a lot of sacrifices. You clearly have a good head on your shoulder Very smart, young, articulate for 20 and having seen so much of the industry, a lot of that goes to you. Not to deny you credit, a lot of that goes to you. I mean not to deny you credit, but a lot of that goes to the sacrifices your parents made, and they clearly did something good. So thank your parents on behalf of us, and I look forward to seeing where your career takes you.

Speaker 1: 35:04

Thank you so much. Thank you for taking the time to talk to me. I can't wait to come back when the album's out. Thank you.