Greg Staffa: 0:00

You're listening to the Staffa Corner Podcast, a Staffatarian look at entertainment and life. With your host, Greg Staffa.

Rachel Stubington: 0:39

Hi, thank you for having me.

Greg Staffa: 0:41

So I really wanted to talk to you. I've seen the entire season. I really loved where the storylines go. But one of the things that caught my eye, and this is not really a spoiler, is that you have a lot of episodes that you're in, but Summer doesn't really have her own storyline. And in my review, I posted that you are the cream of tartar of shrinking. And by that, what I meant was that cream of tartar, no one knows what it is. But it's in a lot of recipes and a lot of things that just are part of it, that without it, the food wouldn't be as good. And I think it sounds bad to say that your character, on one hand, really wasn't needed this season.

Rachel Stubington: 1:28

Yeah.

Greg Staffa: 1:28

And yet she's in every episode almost. And I think that's a real testament to the writers realizing what they have in summer and you as an actress. What do you think about that kind of analogy?

Rachel Stubington: 1:41

No, I mean I just bought that to make Snickerdoodles, so I'm team tartar, but um I like I really think it is the blessing of being on a Bill Lauren show. I think, you know, like I was a fan of Ted Lasso way before I was on Shrinking, and you kind of see that on that show too, where you know, they'll take characters from season one who you didn't really, you know, see that often. And by season three, they have like this full fledged out story or they have this deep character. And like I feel very lucky because I'm very aware that if this was another show, I probably would have been like in an episode and not have come back.

Greg Staffa: 2:22

On one hand, it kind of sounds mean to say that like you're not relevant for the season, you're not needed, but yet I think they're the writers and you know the directors all said, you know, we need an injection of summer, we need that cream of tartar in that recipe, even though it's not as common as sugar and flour. We need summer, and you appear in just random spots where it's like, oh, there's summer again. And it was something that was almost joyful to see you appear, and yet, like you said, a lot of writers would have written her off. And again, I think that's a huge testament to you as a person, uh, and to you as an actress, because I think a lot of it reflects on your work ethic and what you bring to that character. What was it like this season? Tell us a little bit about what was it like filming this season?

Rachel Stubington: 3:11

Yeah, I I you know, I feel like it said over and over again just how much of a family that show kind of feels like. Everyone is just so kind and uh so welcoming. Like I, you know, I think as an actor, like your big dream is to be part of a cast. And, you know, sometimes when you come in with a smaller role, you're very aware that you're just kind of there for the day and they're a family. And like, but I, you know, I feel like with shrinking since day one, I've just been so included and so made to feel part of the family. So I think this season I was kind of able more to you, you know, you get wrapped up in like the this is a big show and it's a big deal to be a part of, but I feel like this season I felt like I was just going to see friends every time I went on set. And I I felt like, you know, I the season the episode that comes out tonight is the one where um it's like the Mary Soul and um Sean, where she's in the pool house with them. And I talk about that a lot, like just with my friends, about how that was such a magical day of just like young actors getting to like play with each other and have a good time. So the season was really fun.

Greg Staffa: 4:32

And there almost should be, we should have released like a bingo card of pairings that you have. And I won't go into many of the pairings because some of those haven't happened yet, but you're paired with almost everyone at one point or another, where you get like your own little scene with them, and it's just I really not just because you've been on the podcast, but your your character's such a fun, unique character that it was really fun to see like where would Summer pop up next. Did you feel that as an actress?

Rachel Stubington: 5:04

Oh, a hundred, you know, like um what's fun is a lot of the times you don't get the script till like right before. And I feel like everyone else on that show kind of knows they didn't like you don't know exactly what's gonna happen with your character, but you kind of have an idea of like which way your character's going. And for me, I have no idea at all. And you're right, like every episode I'd be like, I couldn't imagine being in this person's house. Like it's it's cool to get a script and like you know, it's such a surprise. And sometimes I'll have fittings before I know what happens in an episode. So, like, you know, they'll be fitting me for like clubbing outfits. And I'm like, I guess, I guess summer's clubbing this week.

Greg Staffa: 5:48

Is there as an actress, because you've had seasons where you've had where Summer's had more of a storyline and she's had an arc where she, you know, she knows where she's going over, you know, three or four episodes, maybe sporadic, but yeah, you know where kind of the trajectory is. Whereas this, I mean, there are scenes where literally you just appear and it doesn't make sense, but it's still a fun scene. Is there a preference of like not knowing or knowing a little bit more or wanting to know a little bit more as an actress? How do you is there a preference that you have?

Rachel Stubington: 6:24

I like you know, sometimes it's nice to not I but I like I'll do the work either way, you know, like I'll always know where she's coming from and where she's going. And you know, like obviously I have my own little summer goals and you know, what I am assuming she's gonna do post this season, just to like give myself some context. But it's it's weird because I feel like a lot of my studying as an actor, you know, you like you do all these famous plays where there's 17 billion people who have already played the role and figured out the character and like where they start and where they end. And it's really, it's it's really a cool challenge to play someone that like is an active changing character where you don't always know what's gonna happen.

Greg Staffa: 7:13

As an actress, I mean, you look at the cast of shrinking, you look at the the powerhouses of people that you have scenes with you know previously and then in the future now, does that feel different than when you're acting? I mean, not that another actor or another show doesn't have that kind of dynamic, but is there something different when you're performing around like a Harrison Ford or you know, whoever is is that powerhouse element something that's present? Or as an actress, once the cameras are rolling, everyone's kind of an equal and a peer.

Rachel Stubington: 7:49

Everyone feels like an equal and a peer. Like I feel like you know, the bigger people make it so that it feels like a very even playing field and everyone feels very welcomed. But what I like as an actor, because I was really nervous about that too. I'd never worked with people remotely at that caliber. But the thing that happens is, you know, when you're acting, like the thing is you don't want to be in your head. You want to be focused on the people around you. And I think it's such a gift to have people around you that you want to watch and like soak in so much. Because it really like it's so difficult to be in your own head when you're staring at like Harrison Ford doing this gorgeous monologue, you know?

Greg Staffa: 8:30

Just to do a little bit of my own horn tuning, I was an extra, can't compare to you, but I was an extra in a film that involved Meryl Streep and like Tommy Lee Jones and several other actors, and it was a closed set, so everything was filmed in a theater, and so the extras, there's only like 20 of us, and so you gotta see Meryl Streep kind of in her own element because she would stick around and we would get to see her with you know no cameras rolling, and you get to see a different side of the actor and actresses when you're filming uh, you know, shrinking and the cameras stop and you're working with like a Harrison Floor type or you know any of the other actors, was there anyone that surprised you of your perception beforehand to what you saw when the cameras weren't rolling that might surprise other people?

Rachel Stubington: 9:21

You know, I honestly I think it's best case scenario where everyone was kind of exactly how you wanted them to be. You know, I think it's it's really scary meeting people that you really look up to because you know, like one bad interaction, and then it's kind of like, well, there goes my favorite movie. But I like I really do feel like even when cameras are off, like I just Jason's like the most lovely human being, and Harrison Ford's so funny and generous. And you know, I just I feel like it's because everyone's always like, what are they like? And it's you know, they're the best, they're so kind. And I think there's a reason that the show keeps going and like they're able to build this element of community and um friendship, you know, and I think it's all real off camera too.

Greg Staffa: 10:10

And then you and Nikita, who plays Alice, you are the two younger actresses on the show. What is that like being there's the younger group and then there's the older actor group? Is there kind of like high school where you have like the freshmen and the seniors? How does that kind of interaction work in between takes and stuff like that? Is there really that sense of community or is there can you kind of go to your own grouping?

Rachel Stubington: 10:36

Yeah, I'm trying to. There was an episode where it was just like the younger group. I think it comes out next week. I don't know. I don't know the order. That was, I feel I feel like usually they do a really good job of blending all the age groups in scenes, but it was kind of the first time we all had a scene together. And I will say that was one of the most fun days of my entire. I just I feel like we all had so much fun. And sometimes you don't want to geek out about where you are when you're like around all those people. But it was so fun to just kind of like, you know, we were all in this warehouse and to think, like, oh my God, look at where we are. But I would say it's a pretty good blend of never feeling like, oh, I'm too young to be here to be like listened to. I feel like they do a really good job of making everyone feel included.

Greg Staffa: 11:30

And without giving anything away, is there anything coming up? And you kind of hinted at a few things, but is there anything coming up that you're excited for your fans to see? Is there a particular episode or is there something that I because I don't want to give anything away, so I'm gonna let you know.

Rachel Stubington: 11:47

I appreciate it. I'm really excited for tonight. I I what's weird is this season I don't remember as well as I remember filming last season, just because it was it was more, and we shot kind of in a block way because of the fires. And so I feel like this episode was really fun, and Zach Braff directed, and he's you know, the coolest ever, and just so good with comedy. I think this one was really fun, and you're right, like it's one where Summer has no reason to pop up and she's in it like such a weird amount.

Greg Staffa: 12:25

I mean, in your own defense, it it is true. You're there are scenes where you pop up that it would be hard to kind of gauge where you are in the story or where you are in that that storyline of like how do you put it because there's certain roles where you can kind of put things together based on what your appearance is, but you're literally like, Oh, there's some how why is Summer at this event with these people on you know doing whatever? I don't want to give anything away. And it's like doesn't make any sense, but yet your lines are so funny, and Summer is so funny that you're like, I'm glad she was there. I don't know why she's there, but I'm glad she was there, and it just it it's a brightening character that I think makes every scene a little bit more fun, especially since you don't know what summer's gonna say next.

Rachel Stubington: 13:14

Oh, yeah, no, neither do I, and sometimes like it's fun to read the script, but then sometimes I think like, oh now I have to go say that. Um, and it's just so special.

Greg Staffa: 13:27

And how much of Rachel is in summer, or how much summer is in Rachel?

Rachel Stubington: 13:32

I was not like summer in high school, like at all. Like I was very, I remember going to prom and being offered weed and being like, I have to do a performance of young Frankenstein in a week. I can't. But I feel like summer is kind of like a persona I have, if that makes sense. Like I think in college, when I would want to be fun, I would try to bring a little bit of summer to me. And that's what I kind of try to dig into. I just I think she's a lot more fun than I am, and I think that she cares a lot less what people think about her. And I I, you know, I think there's a lot of traits in her that I wish I had more, and it's fun to explore them like through a character.

Greg Staffa: 14:18

No, I've seen your Instagram posts, and some of them I would call Summer-esque, I would say, yes, is yes. That's very valid. Is that something that you're trying to kind of carry it over? Is that something that you're finding empowering and opening yourself up to be not outspoken, but be more free in your thought as Summer, or is it just a coincidental thing that that's you're creating these little story things and that's a personality that comes out in those?

Rachel Stubington: 14:52

I think I just have the same sense of humor as Summer. Like, I think that you know, if you know me in person, you know that I'm a very sensitive, unzoloft kind of girl. But I think that she's just everything she says is so akin to what I find funny, and I try to bring that, I think, to my social media.

Greg Staffa: 15:17

And unfortunately, the model robber has still not gotten you yet, which I think is a tragedy. When I mean you're at a young age now, you're what 24? 25. 25. You're at a kind of a transitioning age where you're getting roles like the summer role, and I'm sure you're getting more adult roles. Is there a pressure? Is there an industry kind of saying, you know, we want you to go one way or another? How are you as a young, you know, you're a young, lovely woman? How do you approach roles? And do you see the industry kind of wanting you to grow up and be, you know, more? I mean, we live in a very sexualized world, sexualized industry. Are you feeling that pressure or are you still getting the younger roles? How do you navigate something like that at this age?

Rachel Stubington: 16:09

Yeah, I think I have a lot of age dysphoria because you know, I still audition for like high school, and then I'll get like mom auditions. And you know, sometimes I go to a restaurant and I get carded. And sometimes I go to a restaurant and they're like, oh my god, we do not need to see your ID. So I I'm trying to just navigate these next steps in finding characters that I feel like really speak to me and hoping for the best, hoping that if I bring myself to the role, age is uh, you know, I I yeah, but I totally feel that. Like I don't know what category I fit into because I'm still playing high school and shrinking. No, that's a good question.

Greg Staffa: 16:56

Do you feel a pressure that the industry wants you to take on more mature adult roles or how are you filtering things?

Rachel Stubington: 17:05

It's a weird place to be because you know, I feel like when you look at an actor in their career, you kind of assume that, you know, they did everything so strategically. And I feel like I'm in this weird place where, you know, I really, I really want to work. And I'm just really excited to get out there. So when I audition, I kind of feel like I don't know yet if I'm in a place where I have the say to choose exactly like what I do and what's gonna mark the next part of my career. But I I, you know, I'm very optimistic and excited about that next step.

Greg Staffa: 17:42

And I'm sure Harrison Floyd on your resume is a like a reference. Right. You're doing a little bit of a writing, I understand. And you also are starting to direct a little bit more, pull some more that kind of stuff.

Rachel Stubington: 17:56

Yeah, I um I just premiered my first film at the Newark Theater in Santa Monica that I wrote with my best friend Jacob Cherry. And it's, you know, it's a comedy based off of student films and it's a mockumentary, and it was one of the most fun experiences I've had. And I kind of brought that shrinking set mentality of making it really collaborative and making sure that everyone's having a good time and everyone feels like they're doing their best work. And I feel like what's really cool about starting my career on a show like shrinking is that like now I have these standards kind of set for myself where I can't really accept less now, you know. Like if if everyone on that set can be nice and generous, I feel like I have this expectation now, which is not always how it is, but I just I feel like I want to continue to work on sets exactly like that.

Greg Staffa: 18:57

What is the name of the film?

Rachel Stubington: 18:59

It's called Copy Credit No Pay.

Greg Staffa: 19:01

And that's making something like that.

Rachel Stubington: 19:02

Oh, we're doing the festival circuit. Yeah, we just submitted to all of them.

Greg Staffa: 19:08

And how's that been?

Rachel Stubington: 19:10

It's been really good so far. Um, it's a lot of sitting and waiting, which is weird. You know, you want to feel productive and like you're like really out there pushing your movie. Um, but right now we sit and we wait. And I check my phone like 16 times a day.

Greg Staffa: 19:24

And is it a short or is it a full?

Rachel Stubington: 19:26

It started as a short. It's an hour, five minutes. But yeah, I guess it's a feature now.

Greg Staffa: 19:34

You have that going on. What else are you working on?

Rachel Stubington: 19:38

God, season four, we just got renewed, which I'm really excited about. I I feel like that's kind of I think that's supposed to start next next month, maybe. I just finished a play or a musical, as they call it. And I I think I'm just excited for my next steps. I'm writing a book right now, which I'm really excited about.

Greg Staffa: 19:59

What is that about?

Rachel Stubington: 20:01

It's about a community theater production of Greece, which I just finished. So I'm trying, you know, I'm trying to stay productive in this time. But it's hard. It's hard as an actor to feel like there's months where you do nothing, and then months where you're so busy that you can't move. So I'm trying to navigate that in a good way.

Greg Staffa: 20:20

And I don't want you to spoil anything, but you you said that season four starts next month, so you are confirmed to be coming back.

Rachel Stubington: 20:30

I don't know. That one I'll be honest.

Greg Staffa: 20:33

Okay. I don't want you to have to spoil anything. And given how the tragic death of your character at the end of this no, just kidding.

Rachel Stubington: 20:40

Yeah, violent too.

Greg Staffa: 20:42

But I hope you do return and I hope Stubbor gets a little bit more of a storyline. I think as she as your character matures, and I mean we see her maturing, you know, even in this season, even though you're just popping up here and there, uh, your character does have some growth to her. So hopefully you can be seen not just as you know Alice's friend, but a lot of these characters are just characters that are friends, and so I would love to see that transition from being Alice's sidekick to being just like you know all the rest of the characters that are just there because they're friends. So that'd be like a big thing. Yeah, right.

Rachel Stubington: 21:22

I would love to meet Summer's parents too. That's something I'd be really interested to explore.

Greg Staffa: 21:28

That would be a little bit uh disturbing on some levels and interesting on other. And I guess I always thought of her as kind of a free soul that just kind of floats around.

Rachel Stubington: 21:40

And she is, and she is.

Greg Staffa: 21:43

So what is the the goal? I mean, you're you're 25, you're writing a book, you're you have your first film that you're promoting and and putting out there on the festival circuit. What is kind of like the five year plan for you know, what's Rachel's plan?

Rachel Stubington: 22:00

I don't know. Um, I really love acting. I've I've just I've been having a really good time with it so far. And I feel like I want to ride that out as long as I can. I I don't know what the next step is gonna be. I'm I'm auditioning and I'm I don't know. Um I hope it's I hope it's a good five years though. I I watched a manifesting video on TikTok last night. So hopefully that kicks in at some point. Yeah, I just gotta put out good vibes into the world and they'll come back to me.

Greg Staffa: 22:38

And what has been the biggest discovery for yourself being surrounded? I mean, it's a lot of actors and actresses would love to have a role where Harrison Ford is even a minor character, or if there's possible, or some of these actors that you've worked with and you've basically found yourself in kind of the world series of actors and actresses.

Rachel Stubington: 23:04

Oh, yeah.

Greg Staffa: 23:05

What has your takeaway been from that? As far as I mean, you'll you talk about, you know, the set and how respectful it is, and and you know, it isn't the first time someone has mentioned that about like a Bill Lawrence set. Um tell us a little bit about some of the takeaways you you've had.

Rachel Stubington: 23:23

That's a good question. I would say my biggest takeaways besides like the decorum and the kindness are I I just I think it's really cool to watch these actors work. Like I, you know, I think it's really I I I think my perception of like when you get to a certain level is that you kind of phone it in a little bit or like you have this bag of tricks that you kind of lean into. And it's really, really great to see. Like I think Jason Siegel is just such a world-class actor, and you, you know, you see his prep and you see how deeply he cares about this character, and how much like in every scene, he brings so much preparation and so much care. He has nothing to prove at this point, you know. So it's cool to see how actors at every level are kind of, you know, doing the same thing of trying to figure out how to tell authentic stories and how to bring their full self to a role.

Greg Staffa: 24:37

And I mean, I still get teary-eyed when I think of the Harrison Ford monologue at the end of last season and just his performance in that. And this season he has a couple of great scenes where it's just like, my god, he's not just this action hero that we all come to think of it, he this guy can act.

Rachel Stubington: 24:58

Oh, yeah.

Greg Staffa: 24:59

Seeing him on camera is simply amazing. What do you think about the state of Hollywood these days as far as so much is on streaming now? I mean, you're on an Apple Plus show. Yeah, the traditional Hollywood kind of studio type thing is kind of in a disarray. You're a young actress coming into things, but do you feel like there's some uncertainty out there of the stability of where Hollywood is? Because right now we're getting bigger features, but the smaller independent films that used to rely on like VHS and DVD sales to make a little bit of a profit aren't there. When you're doing something like uh copy credits, no pay, you know, is there a fear that it won't get out there as m well as it would have had it been 10 years from now? Or is this something that you just created that you love and you hope it finds a a place?

Rachel Stubington: 25:56

Yeah, I think I mean I think totally with this streaming and the auditioning, it's it's a lot different than it was even like five years ago. And you know, I I see some benefits in that I think I'm a weird person, and I feel like there's much more of a market for weird people with streaming. I think there's so many different kinds of shows now that I feel hopeful that there is more of like a world, or there's more of a market for shows that I could be a part of. But um, yeah, with copy card and no pay, I think our hope was just to make something that we found really funny and create something that felt artistically fulfilling and fun. And if something comes from it, that's fantastic. But you know, just to be able to premiere it in this big theater and have people laugh kind of felt like a means, an end to a means kind of thing.

Greg Staffa: 27:03

Do you find yourself? I mean, you are a filmmaker now. Do you find that you're kind of in a different generation being the TikTok Instagram generation where I mean you the skit that I kind of hinted at, the the model, what is the model thief or whatever, on your Instagram? That's a cute, funny little skit. I mean, it's only two minutes long, but you have a clear talent for creating characters and creating a story, even if it is for a two-minute thing. Do you find that you're almost in a different generation of filmmakers now, because of things like TikTok and Instagram?

Rachel Stubington: 27:42

Oh, totally. I feel lazy all the time because I feel like there's such an avenue to share your stuff constantly in a way that there just never was. And I think it's really cool for comedy too, because you're getting all these people who, you know, like come from wherever and they're able to share their sense of humor so so lar, like they're able to reach such a large audience through social media. And I think that's kind of cool to like have an idea. And I think even a few years ago, you would have an idea and be like, well, like maybe one day if I ever write for SNL, I'll pitch this as a sketch. And now, you know, it's cool to have this avenue where you can make your own stuff and share it. And it's it's it's really fun.

Greg Staffa: 28:34

And so much of your stuff is online, you know, these skits that you do on Instagram, your character on shrinking. Who where does the real Rachel kind of fit in all this? Like, is there a spot or a where do you say where do you look at something that you've done and say that's the closest of being Rachel on screen that I can be?

Rachel Stubington: 28:59

Yeah.

Greg Staffa: 29:00

Or is that part of being an actress? Is that you're not?

Rachel Stubington: 29:04

I feel like I feel like summer getting to make people laugh. I don't know if it feels like, oh, that's textbook Rachel, that's exactly how I would have responded to that situation. But I think I don't even know if this answers the question, but I think like all I really set out to do in acting and my goal in my career has always just been like, you know, I I really love making people laugh and I love comedy so much. And I think that Summer has really like accomplished this big life goal I've had of, you know, just being in a room with funny people and getting to riff with them and getting to, you know, like having a job that's just comedy. Um, so I don't know if that's like textbook Rachel in her responses, but I think it's just so innately close to my heart and close to what I wanted to do.

Greg Staffa: 30:08

Right now you're juggling a lot of balls, it seems. You're acting, you know, in stuff like shrinking. You mentioned that you're writing a book, you've directed a film that you're now promoting, you did a Hollywood play or uh not Hollywood play, but you you did a a play. Is there a certain outlet or a certain avenue that like if everything was paid the same and the job security was there, is there a certain industry that you especially love doing, that you especially love being creative in, or is it just where you know the roles are?

Rachel Stubington: 30:49

Yeah. Um that's a good question. I I don't know. I feel like that's kind of I feel like with social media and with this world where you can do so much, I feel overwhelmed at times of like, you know, well, I love writing and I love acting. And I, you know, I really love theater. I loved, I love getting to perform in front of people. And, you know, I I hope to continue with that. I think I had that realization this year doing that show of like, you know, I think TV has felt a lot more accessible, especially in Los Angeles. But I hope to continue to do stuff on the stage as well. I like to follow like Michael Urey. And um, he, you know, he's so brilliant on TV and then he goes on Broadway and then he goes back to TV. And I think he is like the coolest career ever. And I'd love to one day have like a semblance of that.

Greg Staffa: 31:51

What does Rachel do for fun? God, good question.

Rachel Stubington: 31:55

Um I God, what do I do for fun? Um I play tennis a lot. I'm not very good at it, but I play all the time. And I'm hoping that one day it just kind of kicks in. My roommates and I have been watching like tons of ice skating videos on our TV. I'm an A, I'm in, what is it? An A-lister Stubbs. I go to the movies all the time. And I I started, I got one of those bedazzling kits on TikTok. So I've been bedazzling my entire room, like very slowly but surely.

Greg Staffa: 32:34

And you realize this is 2026, right?

Rachel Stubington: 32:36

Oh, yes. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. It's kind of like a time capsule at this point.

Greg Staffa: 32:41

And is there any charities that you like working for, supporting? Is there anything that you would like to call out?

Rachel Stubington: 32:46

Oh, a hundred percent. Um, Laney's legacy is something really close to my heart that deals with raising funds to find a cure to cancer. Um, the ASPCA, too. I adopted my dogs and they are one of them just passed away, but I think the opportunity to adopt is something that everyone should keep near and dear to their hearts just because there's so many dogs that need homes. Um yeah. Um, I, you know, I feel like also just in general, shrinking deals a lot with mental health. And I hope just in general, it kind of leads people to this idea that like there's no stigma around it. I feel like I've been very vocal about how much I love my Zoloft and how much psychiatry saved my life. And I hope other people don't feel shame in reaching out for help. And I hope that shrinking adds to that conversation.

Greg Staffa: 33:52

And it has been interesting of the the different themes that we've seen in shrinking in this season, not to get into any spoilers, has really been about moving forward and being finding yourself down and getting back up and and carrying on um through a lot of hardships and stuff like that. Um and I'll include the the links to the charities that you mentioned in your blurb. Oh, thank you. Wrapping things up, and I appreciate you coming on. Um I believe I asked this of you last time, but I'm asking of you again. So much of you is summed up in the roles that you've played. Your Rachel from shrinking, your the Instagram stuff that you you know create characters for. But when you wake up in the morning and you splash all the water on your face and look in the mirror, who is it that you see?

Rachel Stubington: 34:48

I that's a good question. I god, I see someone who is just cares a lot about everything. And you know, for better or for worse, I think that's why I act too. Like it's it's really easy for me to put that care into my work, but I'm just someone that always wants to be a better person and always wants to be there for the people I care about. And you know, I feel like I'm just someone that's really trying to do this all right, and yeah.

Greg Staffa: 35:38

Again, thank you so much for coming on. Season three of Shrinking is out right now. Watch to find out the unique, she's almost like a Where's Waldo this season of where summer will pop up. A lot of it is surprising, a lot doesn't make no any sense, but I don't think that's a bad thing. I think that's a fun thing that rate or summer just has the ability to just like oh, she tagged along. Why not? Um, and so I don't mean it as a negative. Uh, I don't mean calling you cream of tartar as a negative.

Rachel Stubington: 36:10

I think no, I love it, and I get it completely.

Greg Staffa: 36:13

I was a little nervous about saying that mic, I hope people get what I'm trying to say here is that it it's not one of those ingredients that you think about. It's not the but it's just without it, there's gonna be something missing. And I think that's kind of what I was trying to convey. But Rachel, thank you so much for coming on. Hope to have you again when we're talking about season four or five or whatnot.

Rachel Stubington: 36:36

I let's keep it going. I know.

Greg Staffa: 36:38

I would love to be able to to you know talk to whoever and get a screener for uh copy credit. Yes, I'll send you the video and uh I wish you all the luck.

Rachel Stubington: 36:49

Thank you so much. Thank you so much for talking to me.